Pte
Roy Vivian Kirsch

Informations sur naissance

Année de naissance:
1897
Lieu de naissance:
Auburn, Victoria, Australia

Informations générales

Profession:
Bank clerk
Religion:
Roman Catholic

Informations service militaire

Pays:
Australia
Force armée:
Australian Imperial Force
Rang:
Private
Numéro de service:
2347
Incorporation date:
14/09/1916
Incorporation nom de lieu:
Victoria, Melbourne, Melbourne, Australia
Unités:
 —  Australian Infantry, 38th Bn.  (Dernière unité connue)

Informations sur décès

Date de décès:
04/10/1917
Lieu de décès:
Judah House, Belgique
Cause du décès:
Killed in action (K.I.A.)
Âge:
20

Mémorial

Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial
Panneau: Bay 25 stone E

Distinctions et médailles 2

British War Medal
Médaille
Victory Medal
Médaille

Complément d'informations

Private Roy Vivian Kirsch a 19-year old bank clerk from Auburn, Victoria, enlisted in July 1916 with the A.I.F. He served with the 38th Australian Infantry Battalion, part of the 10th Australian Brigade, 3rd Australian Division.
Roy, having a German surname, (his father was born in Germany and came to Australia when 13th years old) was the subject of an investigation by the Recruiting office in Melbourne before he was accepted. They were very concerned about his loyalty, despite him having a brother who was a Captain in the AIF at the front, and requested police reports and even character statements from the English Scottish and Australian Bank Limited, where Roy was employed.

On the 4th October 1917 during the Battle of Broodseinde (part of the Battle of Passchendaele) the 38th Battalion waited for Zero Hour near Judah House. Owing to the roughness of the track the approach march was very slow, the jump off was very poorly marked and there was a good deal of confusion, small parts of moppers up etc. being out of place.
At 06.00 a.m. (Zero) the British barrage opened and the soldiers immediately pressed forward. Owing to the darkness and the extreme roughness of the ground the advance was very confused and consisted of small groups of men all pressing forward. The objective of the 38th Battalion was the ‘Red Line’ near Bordeaux Farm and Springfield Farm. Although they were confronted with heavily fortified pillboxes, they managed to reach the objective on barrage time, around 7.15 am, and started consolidating. Roy was killed in action during this attack.

Private Kirsch, age 20, died on the same day as his brother Captain Rudolph of the 8th Bn. AIF, some two thousand yards north, in the same battle but serving with the 38th Bn AIF. After the war their bodies could not be recovered and both men are remembered on the Ypres Menin Gate Memorial, Bay 25 stone E.

Rapports avec d'autres militaires 1

Sources 7

"Passchendaele, The Day-by-Day Account",McCarthy C., Arms&ArmourPress, London, 1995, page 98-99"
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AIF Project
https://www.aif.adfa.edu.au/showPerson?pid=166745
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CWGC
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/924728/vivian-roy-kirsch/
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Service Records
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=7372802
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The Australian War Memorial
https://www.awm.gov.au/advanced-search/people?people_preferred_name=kirsch&people_service_number=2347&people_unit=
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The Long Long Trail
http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/order-of-battle-of-divisions/3rd-australian-division/
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War Diary
https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C1356455
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