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Roy Vivian Kirsch
Informationen zu Geburt
Geburtsjahr: 1897 |
Geburtsort: Auburn, Victoria, Australia |
Allgemeine Informationen
Beruf: Bankangestellte |
Religion: römisch-katholisch |
Informationen zum Armeedienst
Land: Australia |
Truppe: Australian Imperial Force |
Rang: Private |
Dienstnummer: 2347 |
Einberufung datum: 14/09/1916 |
Einberufung ort: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
Einheiten: — Australian Infantry, 38th Bn. (Letzte bekannte Einheit) |
Informationen zu Tod
Sterbedatum: 04/10/1917 |
Sterbeort: Judah House - Wichmann-Hof, Zonnebeke, Belgien |
Todesursache: Im Kampf gefallen |
Alter: 20 |
Gedenkstätte
Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Tafel: Bay 25 stone E |
Auszeichnungen und Orden 2
British War Medal Medaille |
Victory Medal Medaille |
Punkte von Interesse 3
#1 | Geburtsort | ||
#2 | Einberufung ort | ||
#3 | Ort des Todes (ungefähr) |
Meine Geschichte
Private Roy Vivian Kirsch a 19-year old bank clerk from Auburn, Victoria, enlisted in July 1916 with the A.I.F. He served with the 38th Australian Infantry Battalion, part of the 10th Australian Brigade, 3rd Australian Division.
Roy, having a German surname, (his father was born in Germany and came to Australia when 13th years old) was the subject of an investigation by the Recruiting office in Melbourne before he was accepted. They were very concerned about his loyalty, despite him having a brother who was a Captain in the AIF at the front, and requested police reports and even character statements from the English Scottish and Australian Bank Limited, where Roy was employed.
On the 4th October 1917 during the Battle of Broodseinde (part of the Battle of Passchendaele) the 38th Battalion waited for Zero Hour near Judah House. Owing to the roughness of the track the approach march was very slow, the jump off was very poorly marked and there was a good deal of confusion, small parts of moppers up etc. being out of place.
At 06.00 a.m. (Zero) the British barrage opened and the soldiers immediately pressed forward. Owing to the darkness and the extreme roughness of the ground the advance was very confused and consisted of small groups of men all pressing forward. The objective of the 38th Battalion was the ‘Red Line’ near Bordeaux Farm and Springfield Farm. Although they were confronted with heavily fortified pillboxes, they managed to reach the objective on barrage time, around 7.15 am, and started consolidating. Roy was killed in action during this attack.
Private Kirsch, age 20, died on the same day as his brother Captain Rudolph of the 8th Bn. AIF, some two thousand yards north, in the same battle but serving with the 38th Bn AIF. After the war their bodies could not be recovered and both men are remembered on the Ypres Menin Gate Memorial, Bay 25 stone E.
Roy, having a German surname, (his father was born in Germany and came to Australia when 13th years old) was the subject of an investigation by the Recruiting office in Melbourne before he was accepted. They were very concerned about his loyalty, despite him having a brother who was a Captain in the AIF at the front, and requested police reports and even character statements from the English Scottish and Australian Bank Limited, where Roy was employed.
On the 4th October 1917 during the Battle of Broodseinde (part of the Battle of Passchendaele) the 38th Battalion waited for Zero Hour near Judah House. Owing to the roughness of the track the approach march was very slow, the jump off was very poorly marked and there was a good deal of confusion, small parts of moppers up etc. being out of place.
At 06.00 a.m. (Zero) the British barrage opened and the soldiers immediately pressed forward. Owing to the darkness and the extreme roughness of the ground the advance was very confused and consisted of small groups of men all pressing forward. The objective of the 38th Battalion was the ‘Red Line’ near Bordeaux Farm and Springfield Farm. Although they were confronted with heavily fortified pillboxes, they managed to reach the objective on barrage time, around 7.15 am, and started consolidating. Roy was killed in action during this attack.
Private Kirsch, age 20, died on the same day as his brother Captain Rudolph of the 8th Bn. AIF, some two thousand yards north, in the same battle but serving with the 38th Bn AIF. After the war their bodies could not be recovered and both men are remembered on the Ypres Menin Gate Memorial, Bay 25 stone E.
Verwandte, die auch Soldat waren 1
Rudolph Norman Clive Kirsch
Brother |
Quellen 7
"Passchendaele, The Day-by-Day Account",McCarthy C., Arms&ArmourPress, London, 1995, page 98-99" Verwendete Quellen |
AIF Project https://www.aif.adfa.edu.au/showPerson?pid=166745 Verwendete Quellen |
CWGC https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/924728/vivian-roy-kirsch/ Verwendete Quellen |
Service Records https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=7372802 Verwendete Quellen |
The Australian War Memorial https://www.awm.gov.au/advanced-search/people?people_preferred_name=kirsch&people_service_number=2347&people_unit= Verwendete Quellen |
The Long Long Trail http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/order-of-battle-of-divisions/3rd-australian-division/ Verwendete Quellen |
War Diary https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C1356455 Verwendete Quellen |